${Spell[Glacier Breath].Range}

A_Druid_00 · Post by **A_Druid_00** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 7:04 pm

Returns 0, which is incorrect. Not sure what other spells may come up with it, but I noticed it after I got my OoW debuff spell today. Right clicking the icon returns the proper range of 150, so I dunno where the problem lies

fice · Post by **fice** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 7:30 pm

Glacier Breath is useless!!!!!1 E'ci owns it!

A_Druid_00 · Post by **A_Druid_00** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:33 pm

I've found that I have better luck sticking E'Ci and then overwriting it with GB than I do with just GB. FU Sony for not giving our cold debuffs a resist mod like our fire debuffs

fice · Post by **fice** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 9:47 pm

you are missing one thing, they debuff for the exact same amout, all glacier breath does is debuff for a little more AC and costs like 70more mana

A_Druid_00 · Post by **A_Druid_00** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 11:06 am

Ohey, I probably should have looked at the spell description closer. What a waste of a Rune.

Cr4zyb4rd · Post by **Cr4zyb4rd** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 3:07 pm

Hardly a waste...

at any rate, you're getting the wrong entry. Use

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${Me.Book[${Me.Book[somespell]}].Range}

to be sure you're referencing YOUR spell. (Yeah, it looks funky, but you don't have to have it memmed that way) Even better, do the Book^2 trick to get the spell ID and use Spell[ID] for everything else in your script.

A_Druid_00 · Post by **A_Druid_00** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 3:19 pm

You sir, are my Hero. AFK to redo the distance references on all my cast checks now!

A_Druid_00 · Post by **A_Druid_00** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 3:24 pm

Out of curiousity, what other advantages are ther to using the spell ID other than being 100% guaranteed to be accurate. I mean; in my current mac, there's really no need for it just for accuracy's sake after I do the me.book check. It's not like I'm going to have 2 identically named spells.

Cr4zyb4rd · Post by **Cr4zyb4rd** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 5:09 pm

Speed. When you call ${Spell[Voice of the Crazy Bard]}, MQ2 has to walk the entire spell database, doing a fairly computationally-expensive string compare to each entry until it finds a match...not just once, but every time it's used, for example:

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/if (${Spell[foo].Mana} > ${mymana} || ${Spell[foo].Range} > ${Target.Distance} || ${Spell[foo].Duration} < ${worthcasting}) /return

would do 3 of these expensive lookups every time the macro reached that line. Putting a bunch of lines like that in the "CheckHP" sub of an afcleric type macro could be disasterous for execution time.

${Spell[128].Mana} on the other hand returns the 128th entry in the spell database, toot-sweet.

dedpoet · Post by **dedpoet** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 12:51 pm

Interesting. So, would/could you do something like this then? Instead of declaring a spell like this, which is what I do now:

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/declare SpellHaste outer "Turgur's Insects"

Do this instead:

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/declare SpellHaste outer ${Me.Book[Turgur's Insects].ID}

Then every time I reference that spell in the macro, be it for cast time, range, mana, or whatever, would it use the faster ID lookup like so?

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/if (${Spell[${SpellHaste}].Mana} > ${Me.CurrentMana}) /dosomestuff

I haven't really run into any performance problems with anything I'm doing, but if this is that much more efficient, I might switch to using something like this.

A_Druid_00 · Post by **A_Druid_00** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:03 pm

That's essentially it ded. And I can see where it would surely be more efficient. Like he said, the more of them you have, the bigger the impact is. If you're only calling your spells like this every so often and not like every other /if, I doubt you'll see much difference.

But, I converted my druid mac over last night and it does seem to run at least a little bit cleaner. The only issue I have now is just doing something similar to this for my item calls for clickies, which I'll probably sort out today.

dedpoet · Post by **dedpoet** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:10 pm

A_Druid_00, I would be interested to see what you do to handle clickies. I'm at work right now and won't have time to play around tonight, but I'm interested in doing this with my own main macro as well. I don't do a lot of clicking, but am always interested in efficiency.

A_Druid_00 · Post by **A_Druid_00** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:54 pm

The only idea I have so far is to use 2 different declares, one for the clicky spell ID and one for the item name, since spell_routines needs the item name to cast it. I'm going to throw it together and see how it looks tonight.

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