Linux and the macroquest

Biff · Post by **Biff** » Sun May 16, 2004 3:35 am

Hey,

I would like to know if any one is using Macroquest2 on a linux computer.
I am wanting to change over to linux and run EQ on Winex3 just want to know if MQ2 would work ?

Thanks ....

Biff !

Lax · Post by **Lax** » Sun May 16, 2004 4:01 am

no, because MQ is designed to run on desktop computers not on a server that doesnt use a keyboard or mouse or monitor 8)

why the hell would you switch to linux for a desktop. that makes baby jesus cry

n00bie · Post by **n00bie** » Mon May 17, 2004 1:57 am

Aside from that, all of the offsets will be different.

Kint · Post by **Kint** » Mon May 17, 2004 2:15 am

and something about multi threading

dont_know_at_all · Post by **dont_know_at_all** » Mon May 17, 2004 3:16 am

Aside from that, all of the offsets will be different.

No they won't.

and something about multi threading

No that isn't it either.

Any more guesses from the peanut gallery?

Fuergrissa · Post by **Fuergrissa** » Mon May 17, 2004 4:42 am

i know, i know
<puts hand in air>
I know i know
Pick me...Pick Me

Is it because Linux starts with a "L"
and Microsoft starts with a "M"

Lax · Post by **Lax** » Mon May 17, 2004 5:27 am

exactly.. and who ever heard of L&Ls or L&Ms or M&Ls!

I dont use wine(x) because my 600mhz linux box couldnt games even if i wanted to play games on it for some odd reason... but do know process shit is different in linux.

Personally I wouldnt want to have to port it to linux even if it was expected to work, because we use so much windows-specific stuff.

Biff · Post by **Biff** » Fri May 21, 2004 12:29 pm

Lax , I dont know about you but my linux is desktop with keybord mouse sound ect. With over 500 games suported atm. Check into www.transgaming.com.... they have come a long way. To answer your Why linux, Cause windblows sucks !.

Any how, thanks for the info. Just thought it would rock to be able to use MQ2 on my linux box, and I do understand the problems in porting it over. EQ has been running on my linux for about 2 yrs now and I use MQ2 to the fullest.

Be cool !

Biff

Pigeon · Post by **Pigeon** » Fri May 21, 2004 1:04 pm

Linux works great for desktop systems, as long as you aren't completely fucking retarded. Anyone who can figure out how to DL Macroquest and compile it from source should have enough sperm floating between their ears to figure out how to make linux work well for a desktop.

But anyway, eventually I'm going to have to try EQ on winex, but never got around to it because it doesn't work with Macroquest. I know halflife and Starcraft work fine in wine- but that's all I've ever tried.

I've always wanted to try it, *just* so I can see if you could run 2 instances of EQ from the same directory, because of linux's (vastly superior) filehandling. Would save a crapload of memory.

MacroFiend · Post by **MacroFiend** » Fri May 21, 2004 1:39 pm

I wanna take a guess! Is it ... because each WineX app runs in its own protected memory space and the DLL injection is much much harder to do?

jaq · Post by **jaq** » Fri May 21, 2004 2:16 pm

The other day I spent like a long time trying to get cygwin to compile sendmail, and then it hit me..

Why am I playing EQ on my linux box, and running sendmail in XP...

Quit doing shit for the sake of it being cool, and use the tools for what they are designed for.

thats my 2 cents..

Lax · Post by **Lax** » Fri May 21, 2004 3:03 pm

Theres 3 types of people who use linux on desktops..
a) supernerds
b) anti-ms fags
(note that b and a are often combined to form a 4th type, supernerd anti-ms fags)
c) the final hundreth of a percent are people who "cannot afford windows" and "want something cheap" and "do not consider time=money"

Biff is type b

Pigeon is type a

"vastly superior" heh. im impressed. save a "crapload" of memory, or a couple bytes here and there. important if you're on a machine with 64kb of memory... welcome to the 21st century. Here we run "bloated" software that is "inferior" and written by "capitalist scum" or "the empire" (as opposed to my garbage man, who works on WineX) on our "machines we have to perpetually upgrade". WineX 3.3.2 thats amazing, it lets you play KOTOR on your pentium 100 that runs linux, now that the game is yesterdays news/out of style.

I like how on their page they say "significantly increased revenues" and "substantially reduces costs". For who? The 3 developers that produce linux versions of their games in addition to the windows versions? Most gaming industry people realize that nobody PLAYS the games on linux, they just run the SERVERS on linux. It's just like picking a console, you pick a console that is going to make your company profit, you dont make console games right now for the SNES because you wont make money. Just like you dont make linux games because you wont make money. If you want to make money writing PC games or software, you write it for Windows. That's just the facts of life.

You call microsoft "shitty" or "evil" and buy into this crap like TransGaming is significantly improving the gaming industry and reducing costs... or that a linux file system is "vastly superior", or that "windows is bloated" blah blah blah. The average computer is getting better by orders of magnitude, not 10mb here and there. Linux flavors are often minimalist and you're welcome to appreciate that, but calling Windows bloated or inferior is just showing your closed mindedness and possibly blind hatred. Windows for desktops is geared toward average systems for its release date, not for 6 years before it.

Anyway I dont care to hear your stupid argument about how linsux is obviously better. I have a linux box and it is in its rightful place running the server it was destined to run, without a mouse or keyboard or monitor. I wouldnt wish its use as a desktop system on my worst enemy. Actually I take that back, I would wish it on some people just so I wouldnt have to communicate with them anymore, they would be stuck in their basement trying to figure out how to configure sendmail. You like it, fine, but dont bother proclaiming that it is vastly superior. Like the man says, use the tool as it was made for. Linux was made to be a terminal. You can't do easy keyboard handling in linux programming because it's *gasp* not designed to have a keyboard.

Besides... the linux geeks I run into tend to be the ones with the constant halitosis and BO, missing several teeth and what not.. Sort of like that homeless guy I walked by at Eastgate and 52nd.

iluvseq · Post by **iluvseq** » Fri May 21, 2004 3:09 pm

calling Windows bloated or inferior is just showing your closed mindedness and possibly blind hatred.

Besides... the linux geeks I run into tend to be the ones with the constant halitosis and BO, missing several teeth and what not.. Sort of like that homeless guy I walked by at Eastgate and 52nd.

Pot, meet Kettle....

As to the discussion at hand. Run what you like as your desktop OS. However, don't expect much in the way of outside support if you decide to do anything that goes against the "mainstream" (This includes trying to run sendmail under XP or running EQ under Linux. Both can be done, but both will get you ridiculed by the masses)

Personally, I run Windows on my gaming PC's, and Linux everywhere else. (Yes, this includes running Linux as a "desktop" machine. Just not a desktop machine that I play EQ on.) To each his own, but again, don't expect the close minded masses to do anything other than ridicule you if you try to do something outside of the box.

Oid · Post by **Oid** » Fri May 21, 2004 3:18 pm

They both have their uses.... I dont bother arguing with lax on this one anymore though.

Otterboyy · Post by **Otterboyy** » Fri May 21, 2004 4:04 pm

I was at defcon sitting down at a table munching on some crappy pizza when another human being sat down at the table. He was quite "uber" looking in his black t-shirt that proudly proclaimed "Got Root?" with a hat perched on his head that had the Atari logo on it. Quite the "L33t" person he was I must say. I also couldn't help but notice that black sticker on his laptop that proclaimed in large 72 font, "Winblows".

"So what distro do you use?" he asked.

"I use Nt4win2kredhatdebiansolarishpuxaix" I fired back.

"Huh?" was the puzzled response.

As I took my last bite of paper mill processed pizza and in the simplest terms I could come up with, "O/S's are simply tools that are designed to do different jobs. Which tool I use depends on what job I need to get done. You wouldn't open your case with a nail file would you?"

Stand on your soapbox or not about which O/S is the best. Simply put, if you need to use a nail (MQ) to build a house, you would the tool designed to drive that nail home, a hammer (Windows).

Linux and the macroquest

Linux and the macroquest

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