MacroQuest64

I was, before, an abid user of MQ! I love this program and I have suffered for about a month now without using it and I must say, I'm going FREAKING NUTZ!!!! I know absolutely nothing about compiling, programming, or what to do with programs involving those two things! I don't know what to do anymore and I'm asking for someone to have mercy on me! Could someone please maybe PM me with the complete compiled version (in zip form) or PM for my e-mail to send it though there? I'm so desperate and no one seems to have a clear dummy guide to compiling them for n00bs like me. I even downloaded that huge ass file ActivePearl with no luck on what the hell I need to do with it! Any help would be great even if its just a basic dummy guide to compiling MQ because at this point, I would do anything to get MQ working again! You have no idea how happy you would make me if someone could please lend some time to me!

If you purchase a full copy of Visual C++ .net and get it installed/functional on your computer, I'll be willing to teach you how to put together Macroquest for free.*


*Please note that Visual C++ .net does not work on Windows 95, 98 or ME.

Salutaitons,
I'm not going to ban you, this time. But only since you sparked an Idea in my mind... what about donation levels... ie:

$20+ A compiled version of MQ
$50+ Lifetime's supply
$150+ We'll worship you?

I dunno... opinions or ideas on the scale this should be at (THATS RIGHT, I'm hijacking your topic :p)

Feh, all the worse plat farmers will pay...

Make em pay MS for the compiler, and you for the source :)

I'd gladly pay a fee for unlimited license and updates (a la Xylobot, etc..)

Can't do it. The source is licensed under GPL, so we can't charge for it.

We can charge for a compilation service, or for support.

I would much rather keep donations just a donation. Keeping the project restricted to source weeds out lazy people and encourages people to learn more about the systems they use. Also if you start charging to supply a binary what is to keep 3 or 4 other people from charging for one at a cheeper cost or even giving it away for free?

I'm sure there are already people charging for or giving away precompiled versions. No real way to stop them. Of course, won't help the plat farmers till /click is fixed, so right now the buyers are just wasting their money.

If'n y'all don't wanna pay for compilers, help my little Dev-C++ port project.

and why would I get "banned"

IANAL, but I am pretty confident that what you COULD do, if you wanted to re-add in the click functionality but did not want it in the standard release (due to plat farmers) is to make a separate dll with click capability (i.e. a dll that has a method left_click() for instance, that sends a click event to the OS). From here, you put in #ifdefs arround the code that would use this, so you have a compile time option to compile with click (IF you have the DLL) or without it if you don't.

This should not violate the GPL, since it would be a separate effort to MQ, and would really have loads of functional uses on it's own. I know there is a way to stimulate click events (any events really) in windowsXX, but the mechanics of it are beyond my experience atm.

I'm not sure the compiling service is compliant with the GPL, I think if you offer a compiled version for a charge you have to offer it for free (ala red hat), but it has been a while since I have read the GPL. It's ashame this wasnt done as a LPGL project with an api you could use to build MQ like programs.

It is my suspicion that click won't make it back into the source branch, because then it will be in the main stream and abused and MQ will once again draw fire from SOE, in addition to the hard working developers getting pissed off at the fruits of their labor being used in a manner they don't approve of. This may not be the case, but that is where I'd put my money if I were betting.

Having said that, I think that all agree that the click command has many usefull functions that do not go against what the developers think is fair. Most people who work up trade skills think the system is incredibly flawed, and click would alleviate some of the problems. I really don't want to, but I'll probably start looking into ways to fire a click event in win2k, and what complications arise from direcx. (/sigh, I hate windows).

Oh, and l33twiz, here is my take on why you would get banned (from the forums):

MQ was greatly exploited when it was released in binary form.
To cut down on users, and consequently abusers, it was made source only.
It APPEARS that there are a much lower number of abusers in the set of people who can compile MQ
However, it is folly to think that there are no people who can compile whou would abuse MQ, or make it available (for money, services, or free) to the masses who would
The moderators of this board do not condone making MQ available in executable format, so they will not facilitate the action by allowing use to the forum
Also, tons of ppl make posts asking for binary versions. It is very annoying.

As to how to compile it, there are numerous threads out there talking about this. It is doable even for people who have never coded before. (though that will undoubtedly make it harder).

grimjack wrote:Keeping the project restricted to source weeds out lazy people and encourages people to learn more about the systems they use

You are exactly correct. This was the object of the source only in the first place if i am not mistaken. If a person can't figure it out, I believe they should not be givin any more help than everyone else. And i disagree about the donations part L124RD. It seems to much like me to paying for MQ (Which in a way it is). And what if this is put forth and in a few patches they somehow break MQ for good? People will be pissed and so on and so forth. Sounds to me like too much hastle and not a good idea. Although it is not my program so you devs can do whatever you want =)

Would it be possible to have a 'STICKY' subject saying "DO NOT ASK FOR COMPILED BINARIES" (and of course the thread being locked) ?

This way we can save the 'plz plz plz give me the ph4t comp1l3d b|n4r|35' threads that are opened every day

Thanks =)

maq0r wrote:Would it be possible to have a 'STICKY' subject saying "DO NOT ASK FOR COMPILED BINARIES" (and of course the thread being locked) ?

They don't work...half the people that post asking for binaries have never even read any other boards here, they just sign up, new topic, and bam! annoy the crap out of everyone.

Heh

fwiggles wrote:

maq0r wrote:half the people that post asking for binaries have never even read any other boards here, they just sign up, new topic, and bam! annoy the crap out of everyone.

I hope you aren't talking about me