Just curious to see what the generally held opinion is
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Pirating software(poll)
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Ooka_Chokka
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Ooka_Chokka
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I havent voted beacasue you dont have one that would fit my answer.
Do I agree with software piracy, NO.
DO I use pirated software, YES.
Seems like I am contradicting my self. Well I am and heres why. I am a tinkerer. I like to play around with many different things, hardware, software, coding, electronics etc. If i come across a good app with a demo and I use it a lot then sure ill go buy it. Often Ill need to do something like say edit a .pdf document now ill only want to do this 1 every blue moon. Do I go out and but Adobe Acrobat. Hell no. If I could pay for a single use (ie use an application service provider) then great I would do that (In fact with a pdf you can so maybe it was a bad example). So the only option I have is either not do it. Or grab a warez copy.
Do I agree with software piracy, NO.
DO I use pirated software, YES.
Seems like I am contradicting my self. Well I am and heres why. I am a tinkerer. I like to play around with many different things, hardware, software, coding, electronics etc. If i come across a good app with a demo and I use it a lot then sure ill go buy it. Often Ill need to do something like say edit a .pdf document now ill only want to do this 1 every blue moon. Do I go out and but Adobe Acrobat. Hell no. If I could pay for a single use (ie use an application service provider) then great I would do that (In fact with a pdf you can so maybe it was a bad example). So the only option I have is either not do it. Or grab a warez copy.
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Salutations,
just because i voted 'its stealing from those who own it' (or whatever) doesn't mean i don't use it on occasion... I've downloaded more then one crack for demos i needed to use once after the expiration and i used once before, I also use it to crack things (like zMUD) where i bought it, but hte dude won't give me a new registration since i lost my old one... that isn't more of a stealing thing, its more of a 'dammit, i wanna use zMUD f00! Oi paid for it dammit!'
just because i voted 'its stealing from those who own it' (or whatever) doesn't mean i don't use it on occasion... I've downloaded more then one crack for demos i needed to use once after the expiration and i used once before, I also use it to crack things (like zMUD) where i bought it, but hte dude won't give me a new registration since i lost my old one... that isn't more of a stealing thing, its more of a 'dammit, i wanna use zMUD f00! Oi paid for it dammit!'
I used pirated software.. even the company I worked on condoned it.. I set up a shareware software they needed.. they were happy.. I told them shareware would expire.. they did not do anything.. shareware expired and they were not happy, I told them "I told you" before it expired and after it expired they told me "Do whatever is necessary to fix it".. I asked for money to buy it.. they said no. Sad isn't it?
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magictiger
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Wow, here's an old thread...
Software piracy keeps the business software companies alive. When the only way to get a job working with active directory administration is to have experience with active directory administration, it is prohibitively expensive for someone new to enter the field with the needed skills.
Software piracy allows a person to get needed experience with business applications, such as 3ds max, photoshop, autocad, win2k server, and exchange. If people did not pick up these needed skills, the software companies would go out of business when their customers found it too expensive to hire someone with the qualifications due to a smaller number of people with the skills.
Now, when an entire business pirates software, that's hurting the company. When someone pirates games, that hurts the company. These are the things that drive software companies out of business.
Software piracy keeps the business software companies alive. When the only way to get a job working with active directory administration is to have experience with active directory administration, it is prohibitively expensive for someone new to enter the field with the needed skills.
Software piracy allows a person to get needed experience with business applications, such as 3ds max, photoshop, autocad, win2k server, and exchange. If people did not pick up these needed skills, the software companies would go out of business when their customers found it too expensive to hire someone with the qualifications due to a smaller number of people with the skills.
Now, when an entire business pirates software, that's hurting the company. When someone pirates games, that hurts the company. These are the things that drive software companies out of business.
When u leave that company, narc on them to the BSA :-)noober wrote:I used pirated software.. even the company I worked on condoned it.. I set up a shareware software they needed.. they were happy.. I told them shareware would expire.. they did not do anything.. shareware expired and they were not happy, I told them "I told you" before it expired and after it expired they told me "Do whatever is necessary to fix it".. I asked for money to buy it.. they said no. Sad isn't it?
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fasterfind
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piracy
Piracy is a really circumstantial thing.
When a company makes something rediculously expensive due to blatant corporate greed (see microsoft) I don't have sympathy or a conscience when their stuff gets pirated.
However, when I see a developer or small company bust out something like winzip, paintshop, etc., which is reasonably priced - it pisses me off to see someone use a crack to save a mere $20 (Unless $20 is a lot to them.) In highschool, I used cracked stuff that I would have never been able to buy because I had no money. I have a real job now and I've since bought legal copies for the affordable software in my collection.
I think a perfect world would have some sort of setup where everybody pays an adjustable price of what's affordable and within reason for them. Discounts for the kids and the poor - but for anything that idealisic to come around, I must first rally an army of tattooed commies to enforce a lifestyle of fairness.
... if you would like to join my army of tattoed commies, feel free to PM. I live in Idaho and we'll get together for an annual burn barrel barbeque event. (Ever notice how angry minorities like to burn stuff?) Bring beer.
And if you do not want to be a commie, but just have pirated software - either eat your shorts or pat your back for making a good or poor decision. Heh, that's what it boils down to. Sometimes good, sometimes bad. Always circumstantial.
In the longrun, paying for it is good because programmers deserve to make some bank and be rewarded for their work. Now's a good time to plug for donation to MQ for the homies. -Do it, they aren't asking for any set amount. - That means you can embrace the spirit of paying what's comfortable for you, and this spirit can be embraced without needing to be a tattooed commie - that's just awesome! So donate =)
If you don't, I'll send my army after you! They have lots of Barbecued meat, no hair, and they are pretty damned scary people!
When a company makes something rediculously expensive due to blatant corporate greed (see microsoft) I don't have sympathy or a conscience when their stuff gets pirated.
However, when I see a developer or small company bust out something like winzip, paintshop, etc., which is reasonably priced - it pisses me off to see someone use a crack to save a mere $20 (Unless $20 is a lot to them.) In highschool, I used cracked stuff that I would have never been able to buy because I had no money. I have a real job now and I've since bought legal copies for the affordable software in my collection.
I think a perfect world would have some sort of setup where everybody pays an adjustable price of what's affordable and within reason for them. Discounts for the kids and the poor - but for anything that idealisic to come around, I must first rally an army of tattooed commies to enforce a lifestyle of fairness.
... if you would like to join my army of tattoed commies, feel free to PM. I live in Idaho and we'll get together for an annual burn barrel barbeque event. (Ever notice how angry minorities like to burn stuff?) Bring beer.
And if you do not want to be a commie, but just have pirated software - either eat your shorts or pat your back for making a good or poor decision. Heh, that's what it boils down to. Sometimes good, sometimes bad. Always circumstantial.
In the longrun, paying for it is good because programmers deserve to make some bank and be rewarded for their work. Now's a good time to plug for donation to MQ for the homies. -Do it, they aren't asking for any set amount. - That means you can embrace the spirit of paying what's comfortable for you, and this spirit can be embraced without needing to be a tattooed commie - that's just awesome! So donate =)
If you don't, I'll send my army after you! They have lots of Barbecued meat, no hair, and they are pretty damned scary people!