Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 2:53 pm
flashg: i was intending to help you, not put you down :)
plazmic: i wish i owned an as/400.. though i do use one at school where i am taking advanced rpg. the freeform is now released, yes, you can start it with the /free tag. variables may have finally changed to case sensitive, but i dont think the syntax is sensitive. i always keep the caps lock on at school for readability purposes when the printer prints out the information, i guess if cobol is mandatory all uppercase it would be considered case sensitive, though you never have the problem of switching back and forth which seems to be confusing some of the end users. btw, rpg is the pwn for quick reports, cobol takes ten times more lines and is harder to read and learn, yet many businesses stick with the cobol age due to their respect for the knowledge of learning such a cryptic language. if you think macroquest is cryptic, check out some cobol :). the change is good, it will just take time to get used to, and the really old veterans will learn to live with it, but will probably never like it as much as the original. C is a good language to learn, it's just not as popular in major corporations as most people think... the reason businesses stick with cobol and rpg is because it's quicker to write than most c programs (in my limited experience)... as my advisor says (and i tend to agree): cobol is very cryptic, but what you learn besides the language syntax is what is very important. Besides, it's very marketable...
in_training: i didn't mean to jump down your throat so hard, but it just seemed like the right thing to do after a 16 hour shift at work (who wouldn't be jumpy in the retail business...)
oh yea, rpg is fixing to go through a major overhaul i hear... Rumors are ibm is going to make it object oriented in time, as well as try to speed up the java language (which is very slow atm, but corps have spent millions just trying to get it started during the HUGE hype in the late 90s). I really think that 4GL is going to come around sooner or later as high speed internet becomes more and more available and web code is getting harsher and harsher. I bet that one day a programmer will not even know what a function is. It will be just point and click (i will hate computers more than my grandparents that day). I have no respect for the easy programming, i just don't feel like it's an art after you can't see the code...
plazmic: i wish i owned an as/400.. though i do use one at school where i am taking advanced rpg. the freeform is now released, yes, you can start it with the /free tag. variables may have finally changed to case sensitive, but i dont think the syntax is sensitive. i always keep the caps lock on at school for readability purposes when the printer prints out the information, i guess if cobol is mandatory all uppercase it would be considered case sensitive, though you never have the problem of switching back and forth which seems to be confusing some of the end users. btw, rpg is the pwn for quick reports, cobol takes ten times more lines and is harder to read and learn, yet many businesses stick with the cobol age due to their respect for the knowledge of learning such a cryptic language. if you think macroquest is cryptic, check out some cobol :). the change is good, it will just take time to get used to, and the really old veterans will learn to live with it, but will probably never like it as much as the original. C is a good language to learn, it's just not as popular in major corporations as most people think... the reason businesses stick with cobol and rpg is because it's quicker to write than most c programs (in my limited experience)... as my advisor says (and i tend to agree): cobol is very cryptic, but what you learn besides the language syntax is what is very important. Besides, it's very marketable...
in_training: i didn't mean to jump down your throat so hard, but it just seemed like the right thing to do after a 16 hour shift at work (who wouldn't be jumpy in the retail business...)
oh yea, rpg is fixing to go through a major overhaul i hear... Rumors are ibm is going to make it object oriented in time, as well as try to speed up the java language (which is very slow atm, but corps have spent millions just trying to get it started during the HUGE hype in the late 90s). I really think that 4GL is going to come around sooner or later as high speed internet becomes more and more available and web code is getting harsher and harsher. I bet that one day a programmer will not even know what a function is. It will be just point and click (i will hate computers more than my grandparents that day). I have no respect for the easy programming, i just don't feel like it's an art after you can't see the code...