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Please apply to this one Lax
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 12:26 am
by ImaNoob
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 3:45 am
by bonehand
If Lax got that job, then we wouldn't be here attempting any cheats/hacks/exploits...there wouldn't be any!!
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 9:33 am
by Mckorr
I want this one :)
http://66.129.87.69/candidate/default.c ... archWords=
Problem is... no degree, and no previous experience. Hmmm... wonder if they count military wargame scenarios, map/photo/intelligence analysis... Heck, 17 years as an Army NCO qualify me for the rest of it. Not that they'd see it that way.
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 5:13 pm
by Mimatas
And a shop would rather hire some papertech who was pushed through his A+ by Staffmark and has no experience at all. An ISP hired some uncertified moron over me.
"Experience" is a relative term... keeping in mind that the people doing the hiring don't even know which language is being used... much less how to do it. This really doesn't put them in the position of being able to tell if their new hires will be able to do it. They're given a list of good and bad things to look for.. ie:
C++, Java, Oracle, SQL, Unix familiarity
Then they look at a resume. I don't care if you've got a PhD in database theory.. if your resume doesn't say that you've previously worked with an SQL database, they're not gonna hire you as their DBA... similar applies with programming languages. This means that all the 20 year old kid who spent 2 months at DeVry learning which menu options to choose to create an SQL table will get a job before you... who cares if he can't comprehend the concept of a key or functional dependencies, and that the database he designs will be 100% borked in 2 years. By then, he'll have found another company willing to pay him more money to choose the right menu options and create an SQL table.
On the other hand, I agree 100% that who you know makes a HUGE difference. The answer: find a company you want to work for, follow the HR people out to the bars after work.. kiss ass.. get hired. Alternatively you can start porking the head HR person's daughter. Worked for me :)
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 6:27 pm
by magictiger
I may have to call my website a business (woo, tax break for owning a failing small business!) just to have some experience :)
If only....
Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 3:39 pm
by Snapple_is_Good
If all the people posting in this thread were to get together and make a macroquest business.....you'd all be moderately wealthy one year from now. I'm guessing everyone already owns quite a few computers. Not very difficult to get most of them in one place and brainstorm a bit.
Speaking from experience...running macro shops pays well.
Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 4:10 pm
by blixem
Mckorr wrote:I want this one :)
http://66.129.87.69/candidate/default.c ... archWords=
Problem is... no degree, and no previous experience. Hmmm... wonder if they count military wargame scenarios, map/photo/intelligence analysis... Heck, 17 years as an Army NCO qualify me for the rest of it. Not that they'd see it that way.
I'd apply for it, honestly. I've done hiring of software developers before, and can tell you what the HR department requests, isn't always what I look for on resumes. For instance, if I see someone with military experience (being former Air Force myself) I look to see how long they were in, what thier job was, and how much of that they expounded upon in their resume. As long as the person completed at least their first enlistment/commision, then over things such as BS degrees etc can be overlooked. Also, applying Pen and Quill your resume will get you a long way.
The WHO you know doesn't get you the job, it gets you the interview. That is the problem most people who use the term "It's not what you know, but who you know." are running in to. When two persons get an interview with someone qualified to hire the postion, 90% of the time it doesn't matter who you know. (I say 90% because if you actually know the guy doing the interview and/or are banging his daughter, everyone else is screwed.)