Karana is a marked server.

Amadeus · Post by **Amadeus** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 2:46 am

Aluminum foil doesn't work btw ...noobs

motd2k · Post by **motd2k** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 6:12 am

It 20 visable lines in a /report now i believe. From all chat windows. I find a swift /help normal helps alot in my GMDetect Sub routines.

MOTD

tehHax0r · Post by **tehHax0r** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 11:13 am

think of how the GMs can see your text in much the same way the MQ telnet works.

Stogar · Post by **Stogar** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 11:23 am

If you wrap your modem in tin foil, they won't be able to look in either.

I know for a FACT that this works. When I wrapped my head in it the abductions stopped.

MQSEQ · Post by **MQSEQ** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 11:34 am

I know for a FACT that this works. When I wrapped my head in it the abductions stopped.

Dang I knew I was doing something wrong when I kept using Saram Wrap and the abductions didn't stop. Thanks for the correct information.

Mckorr · Post by **Mckorr** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 11:57 am

I just use a wizard hat lined with foil. Stops GM's from reading my client :)

Stogar · Post by **Stogar** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 12:08 pm

Dang I knew I was doing something wrong when I kept using Saram Wrap and the abductions didn't stop. Thanks for the correct information

No that is for not getting pregnant DURING the abduction.

Lax · Post by **Lax** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 12:40 pm

I prefer a custom CStmlWnd and replacement of WriteChatColor as my aluminum foil 8)

ap50 · Post by **ap50** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 2:26 pm

Check the sig, and not the pic :)

Mckorr · Post by **Mckorr** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 2:37 pm

ap50, with that pic I never even see the text in your posts.

kagonis · Post by **kagonis** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 3:52 pm

tehHax0r wrote:think of how the GMs can see your text in much the same way the MQ telnet works.

Well, in this case you are running a server for the client to connect to, on a specific port. Offcourse I don't know if the EQ client acts as a server for the GM's to connect to and read, but I would think its an invasion of your privacy to do so, that is why you have to use the /report command, cause then you are allowing them to read the text.

Ooka_Chokka · Post by **Ooka_Chokka** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 10:36 pm

Are any unusual packets sent out while you type in a MQ command?
Monitor your network activity for 2 minutes or so, then type in a MQ command, then save the log.

Search for Iris on Kazaa(use K++, no RIAA bitches gonna getcha =P )

If something happens right when you type in the MQ command, then try it again. 2 out of 2, and theyre watching you. Id check 10-15 times, and if they all (or a clear majority) come up positive, i'd say you got a solid basis for a nice lil lawsuit against SOE.

Lax · Post by **Lax** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 12:13 am

It doesnt send unusual packets out when you use a non-standard command because it's not sent to the game itself, and if it was, it would look like a standard command. What GM's theoretically would see is a /report if they requested it from your client

van · Post by **van** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 1:33 am

naw i know the spot he was at. There is a macro for that spot.
target the npc /pet attack.. Im guessing for the light blue exp or somthing.. never checked it out.

no looting just killing. the gm's watch that spot. Due to a guy on a server bitching about sombody macroing that spawn. and he was macroing.. guy made a lvl 1 toon named similar to the spawn name and the pst went nuts with thats not a leagal target master. guess he should use target npc and not just target name eh?

My guess... the gm was guessing.

MQSEQ · Post by **MQSEQ** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 8:51 am

Well, in this case you are running a server for the client to connect to, on a specific port. Offcourse I don't know if the EQ client acts as a server for the GM's to connect to and read, but I would think its an invasion of your privacy to do so, that is why you have to use the /report command, cause then you are allowing them to read the text.

Basically if the EQ client was acting as a server they would need a port (usally TCP port) to communicate to your client. With that said the ports your client uses are dynamic and can change everytime you login. Your client connects to them on a specific (TCP) port but yours is a dynamic port (UDP port). Now if they are using a TCP port to talk to your client it's gonna be very hard to connect to your client if your Firewall is not port forwarding that port to your computer. So with that said it would seem very unlikely they can send commands to your computer to get ifromation.

Now if the client on the other hand is written to randomly send out stuff to the servers then theres not a whole lot you can do about that. But when you have 2400+ users on a single server it highly doubtful they are sending random spot checks due to the additional lag time this would create on the server side.

As for sniffing your computer more power to SOE for searching your drive. Just remember back in the early 90's that Prodigy was doing this to gather information about what type of content they should other thier clients. We'll after some lawyers realized their confidentional information was being sent to Prodigy, Prodigy lost a major lawsuit about computer privacy. So if SOE wants to have a class action lawsuit by over 100,000 folks more power to them searching the hard drives for software. For them to be able to prove you was using 3rd party software they would have to admit they was looking on your system. I personally clicked NO on the permission screen asking if they could scan my computer.

MQ and SEQ are not illegal to use and your not breaking any laws like ripping music etc. MQ and SEQ only violates a EULA for a online game so SOE really doesn't have a foot to stand on when it comes to legal reasons for searching your hard drive.