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by Turmoil Toad » Sat Feb 01, 2003 12:16 pm
A lot of folks have posted on this, and have received suggestions that are too simple for their needs--/who lists and Scanning the raid windows just don't work.
I am in a DKP based guild. Every raid that I'm on I use the raid feature to pull people together and evaluate the groups. Having been the "Raid Leader" dozens of times, I can tell you that it's nearly impossible to get 72 people doing all of the right stuff at the right time. Joining a channel sounds like a good idea, but before you know it you'd have people in the channel the whole time, while they were in the bazaar, etc. It just won't work.
What I need, is a tool that will track (LOG) the time that a given player spends in the zone along with a report on distance from me. I would love to see something like:
[65 Ogre Warrior] Main Tank (SE 5.664)
Enter: 22:04.45
[65 Ogre Warrior] Main Tank (SE 15.265)
Exit: 22:14.24 | He died or something
[65 Ogre Warrior] Main Tank (NE 9.344)
Enter: 22:15.26
[65 Ogre Warrior] Main Tank (N 29.304)
Exit: 23:22.13
Total: 1:16:26
Now lets see what our Wizzy is up to:
[65 Erudite Wizard] Ninja Afk (SE 4.346)
Enter: 22:04.45
[65 Erudite Wizard] Ninja Afk (W 200.001)
Alert: 22:14.24 | Have an alert to keep people from sitting away from the raid
[65 Erudite Wizard] Ninja Afk (W 25.364)
Exit: 22:34.24 | He heard Lodi was up...
[65 Erudite Wizard] Ninja Afk (E 14.386)
Enter: 23:04.45
[65 Erudite Wizard] Ninja Afk (W 7.890)
Exit: 23:22.13
Total: 0:48.07
Now...what does all this do for us? Traditionally, DKP guilds take attendance a few times a raid with the EQLog function running, and then parse that as a basic raid attendance list. In our first scenario, Mr. Main Tank died once (shame on the chain) and we'll obviously discount the small lapse of time in zone and award him full DKP for an hour and a half raid.
Mr. Ninja Afk Wizard though...he gets there on time and all, but before you know it, he's a long way away from the raid party! So you get an alert. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt in our scenario here--he simply went to the ZI to form the CoH group. But later he gets news from the Wizard Mafia channel that a mob is up for them to gank. So he quietly ports himself out, MBs SomePoorMob_01, and slips back in before the end.
Now, had I taken three logged attendence /wholists, one at the start, one in the middle, and one at the end, I would probably assume Mr. Wizzy was there the whole time (if he missed the middle one he was probably dead or something...). So he would get full DKP. Instead, we see the big gap in his log, so he gets half DKP for our hour and a half raid, and the pleasure of my foot in his behind because he left for something stupid.
-That's- the complexity that I'm looking for. The premise is simple enough...just keep tabs on who is in zone and write it to file. If you could get it to do it in human readable terms (organized, grouped by class, monitored by <GUILD FLAG>, etc) it would be a lot better than having to look through a thousand line log. And you would only want to have to input the people in to track one time...