Newb question (Hopefully not against rules)

Phatsacks · Post by **Phatsacks** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 8:17 pm

So I read http://www.macroquest2.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4119

And I can understand it's against the wishes of the developers to pre compile MQ2 or any part of it.

Are they talking about what is downloaded in the file, or user created plugins?

Reason I ask is I was going to ask why I can't seem to find any topic containg "Bundle" or "pack" "package", that is a package of some of the top downloaded macs/plugins. I can only assume it's against a rule somewhere that I couldn't find. If it is, please link me the page so I can familarize myself with it. I know it's against the rules to ask about maps/map plugins etc. I couldn't find that rule, so I'm sure there are rules that I can't seem to find.

Sorry if this is asshatery, but I seriously did use the search feature, as well as try to read some sticked threads and the FAQ about rules (that I just can't seem to find)

fice · Post by **fice** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 8:50 pm

They are talking about the precompiled source of mq2main and all other plugins included in the zip (I assume). Only reason why there isn't a bundle or package with the most common plugins and macros is because no one has done it.

Phatsacks · Post by **Phatsacks** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 8:59 pm

Okay, so requesting one isn't aginst rules? Where is the "rules" section? I was looking for maps in all zones, and saw some guy got totally chewed out, it's what made me search for rules before asking this question.

I fell in love with the auto consent raid/guild/group take rez, and loot body mac

I browsed for awhile and got sorta overwhelmed with all the macs, including the updates to them, and I couldn't tell much which are plugins since they look the same. I think plugins end in cpp? Anyways I have steps from a buddy on how to compile mq2 so I'm happy with that. Was just hoping there was a regularly updated bundle with like that neat looking Genbot, autorez, auto fish, casino and all the other ones that are remotely/highly useful, plus the fun plugins.

I found a link to a member's site who hosted his own plugins(?) or macs that was pretty cool, (note the thing i searched for that I can't ask for). I guess if it hasn't happened yet, it won't happen. I will just have to browse and browse for all the good ones. Unless there are plans for a "Top Macro Downloads" etc type page. (Although I did noticed the ones at the top)

Thanks for the reply

fice · Post by **fice** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:12 pm

Requesting a plugins/macros package? no it's not against the rules.

That guy asking for mapping in all zones got completely chewed out because like I said in his post, MacroQuest2 is an utility designed for the automatization of tasks, not to alter or hack the game.

Cr4zyb4rd · Post by **Cr4zyb4rd** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 10:41 pm

Fairly recently there were macro/plugin czars appointed that were supposed to (as I understand it) do something like this..or at least take some measures to "clean things up" and try to make finding "the good stuff" a bit more friendly/intuitive.

I don't know what the deal is, but said efforts seem to be somewhat stalled out. Admittedly it's a somewhat thorny problem and I'm not sure how i'd go about attacking it myself. :/

Generally, any macro/plugin thread with a ton of replies is going to be good, or at least actively developed. Otherwise, poke around...it's daunting at first, but this is really a pretty small forum. You can easily take in the plugin/macro sections in a few hours browsing.

fice · Post by **fice** » Sun Nov 14, 2004 1:38 am

not really hard, just sticky the useful/common ones

example: moveutils, twist, xptracker, spawnalert, the improved mq2map, dunno what else, that's pretty much all i have from these forums =p

Amadeus · Post by **Amadeus** » Sun Nov 14, 2004 2:37 am

The easy rule to remember is that none of the dlls that is compiled when MQ2 is compiled 'out of the box' should be distributed in any form or fashion.

User submitted plugins are not restricted as far as i know unless the author has requested that they not be distributed in compiled form.

Usually though, if people want to bundle up MQ2 differently, then that's not a big deal as long as it's just code or text files (ie, macros).

...and yes, I don't know what happened to the whole macro/plugin czar idea ...it's somewhat irritating to me. I guess I'll have to pick new ones.

JGC84 · Post by **JGC84** » Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:24 am

cr4zy for president, or czar, or somthing

cronic · Post by **cronic** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 1:25 am

JGC84 wrote:cr4zy for president, or czar, or somthing

Cr4zy deserves that status. He's one of the few people that knows what he's doing and isn't entirely burned out yet.

cronic

Cr4zyb4rd · Post by **Cr4zyb4rd** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:52 am

The status would be great, but I have to admit I'm a bit afraid that it would be just a status thing and I wouldn't be able to get the job done. If I get the chance I'll talk to Ama and try to get a real clear idea of what he had in mind to see if we can make this happen...haven't been on IRC or anything lately.

I *do* strongly feel that MQ2's at a point where it could use a more active dev...I have great respect for the devs, and I hope that they don't take this wrong, but it seems kind of obvoius to me (and others I've talked to) that a lot of them have moved on to other interests and/or think of MQ2 as a "finished product" or somesuch. That's only natural..and I guess I'll just shut up before I trod more on sacred ground. :)

cronic · Post by **cronic** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 6:42 am

Cr4zyb4rd wrote:it seems kind of obvoius to me (and others I've talked to) that a lot of them have moved on to other interests and/or think of MQ2 as a "finished product" or somesuch.

EQ is breathing its dieing breath. How long that breath will last, I have no idea. I do know that the numbers are dwindling, and they're not going to come back up again. Soon EQ will be gone, and with it - this project. Better have your moment of glory while you can

ins · Post by **ins** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 10:07 am

Yeah, seems to be that way Cronic. Eventually MQ will break with a patch and no one will care enough to fix it. Think thats the day I will officially stop playing.

Think the only thing wanted of a plugin/script czar is just someone to keep it all organized and maybe a list/post of working scripts. Maybe just clean up a lot of the random crap posts that appear in various sections.

insanitywiz · Post by **insanitywiz** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 12:37 pm

cronic wrote:
Cr4zyb4rd wrote:it seems kind of obvoius to me (and others I've talked to) that a lot of them have moved on to other interests and/or think of MQ2 as a "finished product" or somesuch.
EQ is breathing its dieing breath. How long that breath will last, I have no idea. I do know that the numbers are dwindling, and they're not going to come back up again. Soon EQ will be gone, and with it - this project. Better have your moment of glory while you can

Actually, thats not really true. EQ's subscription numbers haven't dipped significantly in over a year, and even at the moment with EQ2 coming out and WoW being released soon they are holding strong. Now, give EQ2 and WoW a month or three each on the open market and we may start seeing EQ players drop their accounts to move over, but i think a lot of people have learned not to jump ship until testing out the new games and seeing if they are worth playing.

cronic · Post by **cronic** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 9:50 pm

I don't know what they've been like in the last year. I know there are very few old schoolers (pre-SoE) that still play. It's that previously large group of people that I'm talking about dwindling. I don't know how many new kids are hanging around, but significant quantites of older players have been and are continuing to move on.

Cr4zyb4rd · Post by **Cr4zyb4rd** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 11:04 pm

EQ is breathing its dieing breath. How long that breath will last, I have no idea. I do know that the numbers are dwindling, and they're not going to come back up again. Soon EQ will be gone, and with it - this project. Better have your moment of glory while you can

I don't see it like this at all. Even if EQ itself "dies" as such, there's going to be people playing on hacked/emulated/self-hosted servers for years to come. It certianly does seem to be the case though that it's the "golden age" where most of us old timers are fat robber-barons at this point. *shrug*