Enable/Disable the /goto function

ISpy · Post by **ISpy** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 2:10 am

Wait wait wait wait...

So a Guide/GM wants to run MQ while actually functioning as a Guide/GM???

Am I the only one that finds that fooking hilarious?

ieatacid · Post by **ieatacid** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 2:20 am

Can't you just change

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{"/goto",       Goto,1,0},

to something like

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{"/mqgoto",       Goto,1,0},

in MQ2CommandAPI.cpp?

daerck · Post by **daerck** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 5:39 am

ISpy wrote:Wait wait wait wait...

So a Guide/GM wants to run MQ while actually functioning as a Guide/GM???

Am I the only one that finds that fooking hilarious?

Guides use the regular EQ client that doesn't have any nifty extra features. They have a couple of ingame items and a few commands to help them do their job but that's it.
Also, Guides are simply volunteer players that have no interest (nor authorization) to enforce EULA violations.

I don't find it hilarious at all...

MacroFiend · Post by **MacroFiend** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 9:54 am

Your code change would work Ieatacid but it would break every macro you use because you would have to change every instance of /goto in each macro to /mqmacro. The way I mentioned should simply rename the EQ /goto command to /eqgoto and let all the macros function as written.

ieatacid · Post by **ieatacid** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 12:30 pm

Yeah, he'd have to change macros to use /mqgoto instead.

Yalp · Post by **Yalp** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 2:10 pm

ISpy wrote:Wait wait wait wait...

So a Guide/GM wants to run MQ while actually functioning as a Guide/GM???

Am I the only one that finds that fooking hilarious?

I know of several guides who use it and have used it for quite some time.

Drumstix42 · Post by **Drumstix42** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 4:32 pm

MacroFiend wrote:Your code change would work Ieatacid but it would break every macro you use because you would have to change every instance of /goto in each macro to /mqmacro. The way I mentioned should simply rename the EQ /goto command to /eqgoto and let all the macros function as written.

Wow, that takes all of 10 seconds per file.... use hot keys. Most of the time F3 is Find Next, and ctrl+V is paste. If you got quick fingers it's easy. But a lot of programs have a Replace With option.

Pugs · Post by **Pugs** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 5:04 pm

He could be a Gm on eqemu too just a though.

aChallenged1 · Post by **aChallenged1** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 7:08 pm

Drumstix42 wrote:
MacroFiend wrote:Your code change would work Ieatacid but it would break every macro you use because you would have to change every instance of /goto in each macro to /mqmacro. The way I mentioned should simply rename the EQ /goto command to /eqgoto and let all the macros function as written.
Wow, that takes all of 10 seconds per file.... use hot keys. Most of the time F3 is Find Next, and ctrl+V is paste. If you got quick fingers it's easy. But a lot of programs have a Replace With option.

In notepad CTRL+H replace all do that for each file and good to go and much faster than doing manually.

ISpy · Post by **ISpy** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 8:02 pm

daerck wrote:Guides use the regular EQ client that doesn't have any nifty extra features. They have a couple of ingame items and a few commands to help them do their job but that's it.
Also, Guides are simply volunteer players that have no interest (nor authorization) to enforce EULA violations.

I don't find it hilarious at all...

Sorry, let me try to explain it to you. Although, an explained funny isn't going to be funny to the explainee.

It's like this, no matter to what extent, Guides are representatives of Sony. They work for Sony. Sure they don't get paid cash but they do receive compensation. The value of that compensation doesn't even equal to minimum wage but it is there nonetheless. For one of them, "the establishment" to use an outlawed program to do their job is fooking hilarious. True it would be even better if it was a full-fledged GM but still good enough.

Does that help?

aChallenged1 · Post by **aChallenged1** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 11:21 pm

daerck wrote:
ISpy wrote:Wait wait wait wait...

So a Guide/GM wants to run MQ while actually functioning as a Guide/GM???

Am I the only one that finds that fooking hilarious?
Guides use the regular EQ client that doesn't have any nifty extra features. They have a couple of ingame items and a few commands to help them do their job but that's it.
Also, Guides are simply volunteer players that have no interest (nor authorization) to enforce EULA violations.

I don't find it hilarious at all...

EQ, the version all of us are using is the same as what the GMs, Devs, and Guides use. The very same. The difference is what happens when you login and when they log in. Their logins give them special access to portions of the program you and I don't get. The portions that allow them to "port" anywhere, cloak, etc. SoE has said so in the past, and you can look through the files and see for yourself some of the stuff that is not encoded.

Now whether or not you believe me... that is up to you. It is true though, and only a GM telling me in game (it isn't going to happen) would make me believe differently.

Drumstix42 · Post by **Drumstix42** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 12:07 am

I aggree with Pugs, he could be a GM on a EQemu server

Kambic · Post by **Kambic** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 2:44 am

I doubt it though, from what I remember GM'ing on an EQEmu server, all of the GM commands are in the pound format (#goto) not slash format (/goto).

Thornado · Post by **Thornado** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 10:11 pm

aChallenged1 wrote: EQ, the version all of us are using is the same as what the GMs, Devs, and Guides use. The very same. The difference is what happens when you login and when they log in. Their logins give them special access to portions of the program you and I don't get. The portions that allow them to "port" anywhere, cloak, etc. SoE has said so in the past, and you can look through the files and see for yourself some of the stuff that is not encoded.

Now whether or not you believe me... that is up to you. It is true though, and only a GM telling me in game (it isn't going to happen) would make me believe differently.

Actually as part of the change to the new petition system they have made it so that the GM's spend most of their time using some special interface program. My understanding is that it is a Java app. This allows them to make changes they could not do otherwise without you logged into the game. My understanding is that unless a GM NEEDS to be logged in to do something they will just use the new interface under all conditions. Its actually the same setup Sony uses for Star Wars. This is a new change but your right before they used to use just the standard EQ client with extra features.

Also if the guy was a GM on a emu server I think he would admit that.

Spoon · Post by **Spoon** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 1:53 am

Why would it be at all surprising that a guide, GM or even Sony dev would use MQ? MQ allows you to automate repetitive tasks and do nifty things that the base interface doesn't do and requires no development time from Sony devs to make it work. Just because they don't want end users running MQ doesn't mean they would use MQ to save having to spend time and effort to get the same result for themselves.