SOE lawsuit????

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SOE lawsuit????

Post by bclark » Thu Apr 01, 2004 10:35 am

what in the fuck.....this site is closing due to SOE?

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Post by romezidane » Thu Apr 01, 2004 10:37 am

*cough* april 1st *cough*

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Post by bclark » Thu Apr 01, 2004 10:43 am

sonofa.....LOL

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Post by Nazgul[NL] » Thu Apr 01, 2004 10:55 am

omg.. I so went for it haha almost cancelled my EQ account till a friend said forums were still up

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Post by romezidane » Thu Apr 01, 2004 11:00 am

they might even bring the forums down for today too :P who knows lol

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cvs still there..

Post by noober » Thu Apr 01, 2004 11:08 am


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Post by bclark » Thu Apr 01, 2004 11:30 am

im SURE its a joke now =)

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Post by romezidane » Thu Apr 01, 2004 11:52 am

from what i think they cant sue a company, for giving out software that the developers here made. it is a independant program ran on a users computer. technically it isnt the developers fault that people use it with other programs :P. get what i mean? Very doubtful that sony would have rights to sue a company that made a stand alone program :P

thats what i think anyways lol

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Post by Exekute » Thu Apr 01, 2004 1:20 pm

So for those of us that want to download the newest release? I saw a link to the cvs, but I don't know how to do that jazz, and I don't want to rebuild the directory structure by hand. I wanted to get some hardcore EQ'age in today.

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Post by noober » Thu Apr 01, 2004 8:24 pm

did anyone made a backup of the cvs repository?

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Post by magictiger » Thu Apr 01, 2004 8:32 pm

Personally, I think it would have been better for SOE to send out these lawsuit threat emails to all the "shady" sites and end it with an APRIL FOOLS. :)
Just to show us all who's still running the show.

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Post by Space-Boy » Thu Apr 01, 2004 8:33 pm

they probably did =D
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Post by theduck » Sat Apr 03, 2004 10:01 am

from what i think they cant sue a company, for giving out software that the developers here made. it is a independant program ran on a users computer. technically it isnt the developers fault that people use it with other programs . get what i mean? Very doubtful that sony would have rights to sue a company that made a stand alone program

thats what i think anyways lol
You aren't allowed to reverse engineer eqgame.exe (or any of the other files for that matter) so technically, they could.

What people still don't get after all this time is that SOE considers you a paying customer too...you pay them, they're happy, it's only when you're doing something that causes other people who pay them to get mad that there's a problem.
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Post by bonehand » Sat Apr 03, 2004 12:53 pm

Actually, reverse engineering computer software is is one of those quasi-legal areas. Unless something changed since I last did a paper on it, reverse enginnering computer software has been one of the ways that a competitor could adopt technologies that are compatible with the existing software. A good example is Microsoft's Windows operating systems. MS has not been willing to share internal specifics with certain developers in the past and in litigation MS has claimed intellectual property rights as the reasoning behind it. However, certain laws still do apply in copying someone else's work, that was not their intention, so courts have allowed defendants the right to reverse engineer Windows so that they could access what MS refered to as their trade secrets and patented software so that the defendant's software worked properly. This gave MS the protection they wanted, but also made it so that the defendants were within their legal boundaries also.

Reverse engineering to copy someone elses work is fully against the law though, but that opens another whole grey area because a copy might work in every way but be programmed in a completely different way! Depending on how the orignal company patented the work, their patents may not apply if different means arrive at the same end! Huge lawsuits in the 80's and 90's between the console and PC game manufacturers led to an adoption of some of the first serious copy protection schemes integrated into the actual systems and the courts never fully agreed with one party or the other.

It is a very grey area in law, and much of this type of litigation is still untested, but reverse engineering is only against the EULA which we don't read, and only is an agreement between the individual and the company.

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Post by p00n » Mon Apr 05, 2004 12:07 am

What people still don't get after all this time is that SOE considers you a paying customer too...you pay them, they're happy, it's only when you're doing something that causes other people who pay them to get mad that there's a problem
Like a tech spilling his whiskey drink on teh login servers?