Real Reason + Explanation for Crackdown
Moderator: MacroQuest Developers
If SOE implemented MQ-like macro systems it would simply devalue tradeskills since it would make them trivial. Then few people would be bothered with them anyway. The fact MQ is hard to obtain and use still means tradeskills retain some value.
The logical extension of your argument would be to just have a single button to click to give GM status in all skills... SOE get money by keeping you online and making things hard, not by making things trivial.
The logical extension of your argument would be to just have a single button to click to give GM status in all skills... SOE get money by keeping you online and making things hard, not by making things trivial.
The tradeskills currently have now value, try to make something and sell to a vendore. There are very few items you can make and sale to a NPC to make money. So you are force to sell to other players which you might make a profit but if you add up all of your failures then you would need to sell alot before you get in the black.
It's this reason we have macros so that we can make the products to make some $$$ to buy that way over priced spell sold by the uber guild banker! Once again I say blame the seller for jacking up the prices and Sony for not using there brains to figure the Bazaar would lead to inflation on items. Atleast when the bazaar was in EC you had to fight to sell something but now place it on your seller and go to sleep.
Also blame Sony for selling items like horses for 125kpp, if you was to play EQ without any help it would take forever to save up that kinda plat. Now you just rely on selling high priced crap that's not really worth it. For example a Jade Reaver sells for 15k to 20k, now Sony could have made JR's no drop since it is a Epic drop for Rangers and Druids. No uber guild comes in and farms them to sell and you can get one for your quest. Does tha type of stuff sound familiar? If not tell wwhat server your on so I can start up a new char on that server.
It's this reason we have macros so that we can make the products to make some $$$ to buy that way over priced spell sold by the uber guild banker! Once again I say blame the seller for jacking up the prices and Sony for not using there brains to figure the Bazaar would lead to inflation on items. Atleast when the bazaar was in EC you had to fight to sell something but now place it on your seller and go to sleep.
Also blame Sony for selling items like horses for 125kpp, if you was to play EQ without any help it would take forever to save up that kinda plat. Now you just rely on selling high priced crap that's not really worth it. For example a Jade Reaver sells for 15k to 20k, now Sony could have made JR's no drop since it is a Epic drop for Rangers and Druids. No uber guild comes in and farms them to sell and you can get one for your quest. Does tha type of stuff sound familiar? If not tell wwhat server your on so I can start up a new char on that server.
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jackolantern
- decaying skeleton
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- Joined: Sat Nov 15, 2003 3:49 am
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Who the hell farms jade reavers?
You'd start a new character on another server just because nobody farms jade reavers on it?
You'd start a new character on another server just because nobody farms jade reavers on it?
You clearly DONT know what you're talking aboutIt was the coin quest which was being exploited by Yantis. You said all offsets handled server side? Wow shows how much you know. ANYONE can get 10+ offsets on the FH level 1 board. They are all clientside and work. The offset hacking for lore and anyNPC turnin is "clever" and "complicated" as many of the SOE announcements have said, but it is not impossible.
I know what I am talking about and was just shedding some light on a murky topic filled with lots of propaganda and guesses.
Hacking LORE items? Yeah. Seru giving 1-65 in 24 hours? Yeah. Seru has been around forever, used it myself back in the days before the newbie invasion... it got you 1-50 in maybe a week.Sure it's not MckorrThe difference is that FH wants to horde information, keeping it for the "elite". We don't allow hacks/plat macros because the purpose of MQ is to automate routine tasks, not ruin the game for other people.
Shame Plazmic-the-not-so-clever didnt subscribe to the same theory, the last few days are a prefect example of what WOULD happen if all our stuff was posted on open forums.The FH level system has only caused some hackers to simply not share information....
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jackolantern you missed the point I was making and if you don't think uber guilds farm then you need to sit back and watch for a week or so. Let a rare mob spawn and you can count the mins till they show up with 100+ 65 lvl guys to chain pull the mobs. It's a very impressive site to watch.
As for the Jade Reavers I used it because I have seen a group of level 65s cycling through the mobs while other folks are there waiting to get a chance. Then these guys instead of giving the JRs to the folks waiting will take it and sell for 15k to 20k. I think this has been a major flaw in the game and that's why you have seen LDoN. They are trying to reduce the farming issues but they forgot to adjust other quests since they made changes. For example you use to kill Ragefire in Sol B to trigger the Ragefire spawns in SkyFire, but when they revamped the Cleric Epic they forgot to change the spawn time fpor the RageFire in Sol B because you still have to wait 24 hrs to do just a turn in that gets you and item and now has nothing to do in triggering the spawn in SkyFire (other than needing the piece to help trigger once you are ready).
Think back a couple of years ago when you went to RM to make you a little plat and the place was packed with 30 or 40 folks in there hunting 10 spawn points and ll the KS'ing that was going on. Now with some on the new expansions nobody goes there anymore. We can go in there and be less than 10 folks hunting/framing the HG's. What this shows is folks only care about making XPs and Plat so most folks are going to LDoN groups to make more XP and plat quicker. This is great for those wanting to play in the old zones and/or being forced to hunt those because Sony has made it tough for certain classes to find LDoN groups.
As for the Jade Reavers I used it because I have seen a group of level 65s cycling through the mobs while other folks are there waiting to get a chance. Then these guys instead of giving the JRs to the folks waiting will take it and sell for 15k to 20k. I think this has been a major flaw in the game and that's why you have seen LDoN. They are trying to reduce the farming issues but they forgot to adjust other quests since they made changes. For example you use to kill Ragefire in Sol B to trigger the Ragefire spawns in SkyFire, but when they revamped the Cleric Epic they forgot to change the spawn time fpor the RageFire in Sol B because you still have to wait 24 hrs to do just a turn in that gets you and item and now has nothing to do in triggering the spawn in SkyFire (other than needing the piece to help trigger once you are ready).
Think back a couple of years ago when you went to RM to make you a little plat and the place was packed with 30 or 40 folks in there hunting 10 spawn points and ll the KS'ing that was going on. Now with some on the new expansions nobody goes there anymore. We can go in there and be less than 10 folks hunting/framing the HG's. What this shows is folks only care about making XPs and Plat so most folks are going to LDoN groups to make more XP and plat quicker. This is great for those wanting to play in the old zones and/or being forced to hunt those because Sony has made it tough for certain classes to find LDoN groups.
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NotSoCSharp
- a ghoul
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- Joined: Sat Oct 25, 2003 10:48 am
And very talented hackers who dont have access to those levels dont contribute to FH. Guarded information? That might be the idea but in reality it is a ego fest and a classic case of the haves and have nots.NotSoCSharp wrote:Something like that. They exchange information about offset hacking. But as mentioned they have levels of access and keep certain information guarded.WHat is FH? Some sort of Off-set Hacking site?
FH is setup to filter hack/cheat/exploit info up the ladder. It's like a pyramid scheme for hacking EQ. People at the bottom grovel and moronically give over any info they find to get higher access. The ones who have higher access use the info and laugh as their egos soak up the attention.
They are the leak for LOTS of things related to MQ, offsets and basically everything else on the darker side of EQ.
They get good stuff every now and then but it comes from outside. I haven't seen anything original come from that community. Better just to keep info out of FH.
It's be nice if they'd shut down that system, the current problem can be traced directly to them and a leaked mod to MQ. Now alot of attention is on MQ NOT on FH, you think FH cares....nope just keep giving them that new version of MQ.
They are the leak for LOTS of things related to MQ, offsets and basically everything else on the darker side of EQ.
They get good stuff every now and then but it comes from outside. I haven't seen anything original come from that community. Better just to keep info out of FH.
It's be nice if they'd shut down that system, the current problem can be traced directly to them and a leaked mod to MQ. Now alot of attention is on MQ NOT on FH, you think FH cares....nope just keep giving them that new version of MQ.
So your trying to say because Plazmic released MQ as open source that caused everything?
If so, if Henry Ford didn't sell the Model A, there wouldn't be millions of people killed since the release of cars. So based on you theory we can blame all vehicle deaths to Henry Ford? Now is it Henry Ford's fault that you got stupid and drove drunk killing 10 people? Or do we blame the gas companies for selling the oil and gas? Wait what about the tire makers, if they didn't hold air you wouldn't drive the car.
All I really hear is alot of BS hot air from everyone blaming MQ for a few folks getting caught using the programs. If you don't like these programs then don't use them, simple as that. If you do then you support what the developers are doing, it's funny that alot of the folks complaining about MQ right now in the Forum are users of the program (prior to all of this). Now that really sound hipycritical by those who use MQ then blame the developers.
If so, if Henry Ford didn't sell the Model A, there wouldn't be millions of people killed since the release of cars. So based on you theory we can blame all vehicle deaths to Henry Ford? Now is it Henry Ford's fault that you got stupid and drove drunk killing 10 people? Or do we blame the gas companies for selling the oil and gas? Wait what about the tire makers, if they didn't hold air you wouldn't drive the car.
All I really hear is alot of BS hot air from everyone blaming MQ for a few folks getting caught using the programs. If you don't like these programs then don't use them, simple as that. If you do then you support what the developers are doing, it's funny that alot of the folks complaining about MQ right now in the Forum are users of the program (prior to all of this). Now that really sound hipycritical by those who use MQ then blame the developers.
I feel as though im banging my head against a brick wall.
MYSEQ, im not saying that at all. About a week ago Plazmic released his personal plugin (with spawnid, edittarget, warp) all that shit to the public.
The dude is clearly retarded, his aim was to get the stuff nerfed, but it still isnt and wont be for a long time... it just means that all the newbie script kiddies with zero self control can now ruin the experience for EVERYONE who plays on a Zek server.
MOTD
MYSEQ, im not saying that at all. About a week ago Plazmic released his personal plugin (with spawnid, edittarget, warp) all that shit to the public.
The dude is clearly retarded, his aim was to get the stuff nerfed, but it still isnt and wont be for a long time... it just means that all the newbie script kiddies with zero self control can now ruin the experience for EVERYONE who plays on a Zek server.
MOTD
