Karana is a marked server.

dont_know_at_all · Post by **dont_know_at_all** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 4:45 pm

..which is exactly why we have a telnet server.

Lax · Post by **Lax** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:07 pm

you should actually call it something else, it doesn't use telnet at all

I agree that the server is good for that, but why do i want to switch to another window to a connection to look at info? I honestly dont. It would take relatively little effort to make a customized display chat function.. meh I'll work on it.

Clone39 · Post by **Clone39** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:20 pm

Just a simple question... did anyone ever think of doing a MQ Terminal? let me explain

I have 2 PCs.. when i want to run a macro i always use my other PC to log into MQ via telnet using Putty.exe. Only thing is MQ sends so much stuff to telnet that the pages scroll and scroll and scroll without stoping.

I was thinking of a program that could sort Tells, Skill gains, damage done or received, or basically a window system just like EQ where we could tell what goes in wich window.

This is probly a big project but it seems like a good idea for the paranoiacs like me.. hehehe.. :)

Clone39

Scrime · Post by **Scrime** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 7:53 am

If you wanted to use a quick and dirty way that leverages existing technologies, you could write a Perl script that logs into the MQ telnet and also to an IRC server of your choice. The script could then sort/filter the messages into seperate IRC channels. You could also make it so that the script takes input from IRC and sends it back to the MQ client, enabling you to control your toon thru IRC.

This way you could have your MQ running at home behind a firewall, but watch (and direct) it from any place you can connect to IRC. Thats what I have done so I can watch and control my toon from work.

Undies · Post by **Undies** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 4:07 am

It seems to me that since tells must go via the server that since the current preferred method of controlling bots is via tells that surely all SOE need to do is monitor tells for suspicious commands? Especially if genbot becomes really popular...

Are there any other ways of controlling bots? I can't think of any...

ap50 · Post by **ap50** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 4:10 am

/join mybotchannel:fugoffsoe

Undies · Post by **Undies** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 4:12 am

thanks, but that is still a chat channel that could be monitored... any others?

(maybe I am being paranoid... I never used to be this way!)

grimjack · Post by **grimjack** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 4:28 am

Undies wrote:thanks, but that is still a chat channel that could be monitored... any others?

(maybe I am being paranoid... I never used to be this way!)

There is no foolproof way to "in game" send bot communication from one character to the other at this time. I seriously doubt they are going to go to that kind of trouble to activly seek out genbot users. It would be a lot of money spent on something that would acheive a loss in revinue.

kaz · Post by **kaz** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 5:35 am

While it may be very rare for SOE to monitor your tells or channels to figure out your botting, it does happen, and if it happens to you and you lose 4 lvl 60+ chars, that might not be a very positive experience.

It should be possible to add a small irc client into mq (Im sure theres open source) then have the irc chat pass through the same filter mechanism as tells and channels and be able to use text from the irc channel to trigger actions.

like

/irc healme
[irc.foreverhacking.net #mybotchan ] <Kaz> healme
[irc.foreverhacking.net #mybotchan ] <Somecleric> healing Kaz

just an idea, maybe someday I'll code it :)

Undies · Post by **Undies** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 6:04 am

It almost sounds like invasion of privacy listening in on private chat... like an illegal phone tap or something.

I am no lawyer but....

PS. I also just realised when EQ crashes now and they ask if it is OK to send them info it is probably not a good idea to click YES.

insanitywiz · Post by **insanitywiz** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 10:55 am

It's not illegal for them to monitor anything that gets sent to their servers, it is illegal for them to monitor anything not involving their game on your system. They don't do that.

The only way for SOE to get any information about MQ is to send it to them, they can't request a dump (i.e. /report) of your system without your consent. They can however monitor all tells, group, say, etc etc.

Edit: Yes, I am behind on the conversation, damn that work taking up too much of my MQ time!

LordGiddion · Post by **LordGiddion** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 11:30 am

my friend use a telnet client designed for on-line mudds - it allows multiple windows, auto filter incoming chat to different windows based on keywords, adds autoable alerts on keywords and macro buttons. He uses it to control his macro'd characters at home from work - except for not having the display screen he gets alomst all of his client functions at work

Next time I talk to him I'll get the name of the client - it's something like rptelnet

TheColonel · Post by **TheColonel** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 10:15 am

I hear it's also a good idea to only run MQ off floppies... and when you're not using them store them in a pillowcase filled with magnets... see Sony's been using some satellite tech. that allows them to (through the use of focused solar flares) scan floppies from a distance... and everyone know solar flares hate magnets.

Vaft · Post by **Vaft** » Fri Nov 07, 2003 6:35 pm

The SoE boogey man is gonna get you!! This might become a historic thread similar to one named after a certain dairy product.

/paranoia on

Yalp · Post by **Yalp** » Fri Nov 07, 2003 6:55 pm

TheColonel wrote:I hear it's also a good idea to only run MQ off floppies... and when you're not using them store them in a pillowcase filled with magnets... see Sony's been using some satellite tech. that allows them to (through the use of focused solar flares) scan floppies from a distance... and everyone know solar flares hate magnets.

lol