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Wolve · Post by **Wolve** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:30 pm

Hey guys,
Been having this problem on both of my OS installs (Vista and XP 32). I can generally stay in world for about an hour before I get an EQ crash (Sometimes multiple if I am boxing). The message is the usual "eqgame.exe has stopped working", and then Runtime error after that message.

WinDbg

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(f18.87c): Access violation - code c0000005 (first chance)
First chance exceptions are reported before any exception handling.
This exception may be expected and handled.
eax=002b3893 ebx=0000095b ecx=0df8cf58 edx=00000800 esi=0df8cf58 edi=00d5a8bc
eip=00000000 esp=0012e1f8 ebp=00000000 iopl=0         nv up ei pl nz na po nc
cs=001b  ss=0023  ds=0023  es=0023  fs=003b  gs=0000             efl=00010202
00000000 ??              ???
0:000> .sympath SRV*c:\winnt\symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols
Symbol search path is: SRV*c:\winnt\symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols
0:000> r
eax=002b3893 ebx=0000095b ecx=0df8cf58 edx=00000800 esi=0df8cf58 edi=00d5a8bc
eip=00000000 esp=0012e1f8 ebp=00000000 iopl=0         nv up ei pl nz na po nc
cs=001b  ss=0023  ds=0023  es=0023  fs=003b  gs=0000             efl=00010202
00000000 ??              ???
0:000> kv
*** WARNING: Unable to verify checksum for G:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\eqgame.exe
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for G:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\eqgame.exe
ChildEBP RetAddr  Args to Child              
WARNING: Frame IP not in any known module. Following frames may be wrong.
0012e1f4 006b2cad 002b3893 00d5a8b8 006be20c 0x0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 eqgame+0x2b2cad

Thank you for any insight you might be able to provide.

dont_know_at_all · Post by **dont_know_at_all** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:34 pm

eip, the instruction pointer, is zero.

next time it happens, type in this command "dds esp L 100" in the windbg command window.

Wolve · Post by **Wolve** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:22 am

Thanks for the quick reply DKAA.
Unfortunately, it took me awhile to reproduce similar results.
This error seems to have an eip .
Windbg

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(d58.e40): Access violation - code c0000005 (first chance)
First chance exceptions are reported before any exception handling.
This exception may be expected and handled.
eax=000e9b28 ebx=00000000 ecx=0de09360 edx=000002b0 esi=0de09288 edi=0000005d
eip=006ccaa7 esp=0012e15c ebp=ffffffff iopl=0         nv up ei pl nz na pe nc
cs=001b  ss=0023  ds=0023  es=0023  fs=003b  gs=0000             efl=00010206
*** WARNING: Unable to verify checksum for G:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\eqgame.exe
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for G:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\eqgame.exe
eqgame+0x2ccaa7:
006ccaa7 395808          cmp     dword ptr [eax+8],ebx ds:0023:000e9b30=????????
0:000> .sympath SRV*c:\winnt\symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols 
Symbol search path is: SRV*c:\winnt\symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols 
WARNING: Whitespace at end of path element
0:000> .sympath SRV*c:\winnt\symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols
Symbol search path is: SRV*c:\winnt\symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols
0:000> r
eax=000e9b28 ebx=00000000 ecx=0de09360 edx=000002b0 esi=0de09288 edi=0000005d
eip=006ccaa7 esp=0012e15c ebp=ffffffff iopl=0         nv up ei pl nz na pe nc
cs=001b  ss=0023  ds=0023  es=0023  fs=003b  gs=0000             efl=00010206
eqgame+0x2ccaa7:
006ccaa7 395808          cmp     dword ptr [eax+8],ebx ds:0023:000e9b30=????????
0:000> kv
ChildEBP RetAddr  Args to Child              
WARNING: Stack unwind information not available. Following frames may be wrong.
0012e198 006b741b 00000c52 00afa97c 00afa978 eqgame+0x2ccaa7
0012e1bc 0059c502 00afa97c 006bcaaa 006bcac9 eqgame+0x2b741b
0012e218 004eea82 031bbba0 031bbba0 0012e7ec eqgame+0x19c502
0012e7dc 0072645a ffffffff 01c93e4a 0012fc8c eqgame+0xeea82
0012fc8c 0055882a 008fce27 0012fe06 00000000 eqgame+0x32645a
0012fdb0 007297fe ffffffff 0055a20e 00400000 eqgame+0x15882a
0012ffc0 7c816d4f 0012cdc4 00000000 7ffde000 eqgame+0x3297fe
0012ffe0 7c8399f2 7c816d58 00000000 00000000 kernel32!BaseProcessStart+0x23 (FPO: [Non-Fpo])
0012ffe8 00000000 00000000 00000000 0070fee9 kernel32!TerminateProcess+0x9 (FPO: [Non-Fpo])
0:000> dds esp L 100
0012e15c  0000077e
0012e160  0de09288
0012e164  ffffffff
0012e168  00000cff
0012e16c  000002b0
0012e170  0000005d
0012e174  00000310
0012e178  00000075
0012e17c  000002b0
0012e180  0000005d
0012e184  000002b0
0012e188  0000005d
0012e18c  000002b0
0012e190  0000005d
0012e194  00000310
0012e198  00000075
0012e19c  006b741b eqgame+0x2b741b
0012e1a0  00000c52
0012e1a4  00afa97c
0012e1a8  00afa978
0012e1ac  00000c52
0012e1b0  00a67ea4 eqgame+0x667ea4
0012e1b4  00a67e8c eqgame+0x667e8c
0012e1b8  00000001
0012e1bc  0012e210
0012e1c0  0059c502 eqgame+0x19c502
0012e1c4  00afa97c
0012e1c8  006bcaaa eqgame+0x2bcaaa
0012e1cc  006bcac9 eqgame+0x2bcac9
0012e1d0  40283034
0012e1d4  00000000
0012e1d8  00000000
0012e1dc  031bbba0
0012e1e0  00000be4
0012e1e4  00000c52
0012e1e8  00000000
0012e1ec  00afa978
0012e1f0  00000c51
0012e1f4  005991b1 eqgame+0x1991b1
0012e1f8  00afa978
0012e1fc  00afa978
0012e200  00000c52
0012e204  006be28a eqgame+0x2be28a
0012e208  40283034
0012e20c  00000000
0012e210  0012e7dc
0012e214  0073bcf8 eqgame+0x33bcf8
0012e218  ffffffff
0012e21c  004eea82 eqgame+0xeea82
0012e220  031bbba0
0012e224  031bbba0
0012e228  0012e7ec
0012e22c  000803fa
0012e230  00000001
0012e234  00000000
0012e238  00000000
0012e23c  031bbba0
0012e240  00330000*** WARNING: Unable to verify checksum for G:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\js3250.dll
*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found.  Defaulted to export symbols for G:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\js3250.dll - 
 js3250
0012e244  ffffffff
0012e248  a2fe1383
0012e24c  00000000
0012e250  43060cef
0012e254  c4adb93c
0012e258  0012e400
0012e25c  00000000
0012e260  00000000
0012e264  408185b7
0012e268  00000000
0012e26c  001fec00
0012e270  00000001
0012e274  0000044a
0012e278  c4adb93c
0012e27c  43060cef
0012e280  408185b7
0012e284  00000000
0012e288  00000000
0012e28c  00000000
0012e290  3f7bbe51
0012e294  be39f4f7
0012e298  00000000
0012e29c  c4adb93c
0012e2a0  43060cef
0012e2a4  408185b7
0012e2a8  00000031
0012e2ac  00000000
0012e2b0  00000000
0012e2b4  00000000
0012e2b8  00000000
0012e2bc  00000000
0012e2c0  00000000
0012e2c4  00000000
0012e2c8  00080cfe
0012e2cc  000db676
0012e2d0  000825a2
0012e2d4  0ad24109
0012e2d8  0dd3ab5a
0012e2dc  049cbf48
0012e2e0  00000077
0012e2e4  0ad24e2d
0012e2e8  0012e3aa
0012e2ec  049cbf48
0012e2f0  00000064
0012e2f4  0012e31c
0012e2f8  00720066 eqgame+0x320066
0012e2fc  049cbf48
0012e300  00000000
0012e304  049cbf48
0012e308  00000000
0012e30c  0012e398
0012e310  0b31698c
0012e314  0012e398
0012e318  00000000
0012e31c  0074dbf4 eqgame+0x34dbf4
0012e320  006a41c9 eqgame+0x2a41c9
0012e324  0012e398
0012e328  20756f59
0012e32c  65766168
0012e330  746e6520
0012e334  64657265
0012e338  65685420
0012e33c  65724720
0012e340  44207461
0012e344  64697669
0012e348  0d002e65
0012e34c  0d104ff0
0012e350  0012e7dc
0012e354  0073ab51 eqgame+0x33ab51
0012e358  ffffffff
0012e35c  006a5597 eqgame+0x2a5597
0012e360  0dd3ab4c
0012e364  0012e398
0012e368  0074dbf4 eqgame+0x34dbf4
0012e36c  69737200
0012e370  0dd3c064
0012e374  006cbf11 eqgame+0x2cbf11
0012e378  0012e398
0012e37c  0074dbf4 eqgame+0x34dbf4
0012e380  0dd3ab4c
0012e384  006b8790 eqgame+0x2b8790
0012e388  0dd3ab4c
0012e38c  0012e398
0012e390  0074dbf4 eqgame+0x34dbf4
0012e394  0de11e60
0012e398  696e694d
0012e39c  657a696d
0012e3a0  6e695764
0012e3a4  65776f64
0012e3a8  00000064
0012e3ac  0dc57a18
0012e3b0  00001000
0012e3b4  00001000
0012e3b8  ff000040
0012e3bc  00714d00 eqgame+0x314d00
0012e3c0  736c6166
0012e3c4  00460065 eqgame+0x60065
0012e3c8  0012e680
0012e3cc  00714d66 eqgame+0x314d66
0012e3d0  c6cf8b3c
0012e3d4  0074eed4 eqgame+0x34eed4
0012e3d8  c084009b
0012e3dc  0012e410
0012e3e0  016e0000
0012e3e4  7c910732 ntdll!RtlAllocateHeap+0x15e
0012e3e8  0ad0ffd9
0012e3ec  0de1208a
0012e3f0  049cbf48
0012e3f4  00000077
0012e3f8  0ad10a12
0012e3fc  0075a9c3 eqgame+0x35a9c3
0012e400  049cbf48
0012e404  00000064
0012e408  0012e430
0012e40c  00720066 eqgame+0x320066
0012e410  049cbf48
0012e414  00000000
0012e418  049cbf48
0012e41c  00000000
0012e420  0075a9bc eqgame+0x35a9bc
0012e424  07a10c70
0012e428  0075a9bc eqgame+0x35a9bc
0012e42c  00000000
0012e430  0012e4c8
0012e434  006a41c9 eqgame+0x2a41c9
0012e438  0075a9bc eqgame+0x35a9bc
0012e43c  0ad10a0c
0012e440  0d828588
0012e444  00000000
0012e448  0012e4c8
0012e44c  006a52f2 eqgame+0x2a52f2
0012e450  0de11fd8
0012e454  0de11e60
0012e458  0d104ff0
0012e45c  0de1207c
0012e460  0d104ff0
0012e464  0012e7dc
0012e468  0073ab51 eqgame+0x33ab51
0012e46c  ffffffff
0012e470  006a5597 eqgame+0x2a5597
0012e474  0de1207c
0012e478  0075a9bc eqgame+0x35a9bc
0012e47c  0012e4c8
0012e480  69737200
0012e484  0de11fff
0012e488  006cbf11 eqgame+0x2cbf11
0012e48c  0075a9bc eqgame+0x35a9bc
0012e490  0012e4c8
0012e494  0de1207c
0012e498  006b8b03 eqgame+0x2b8b03
0012e49c  0de1207c
0012e4a0  0075a9bc eqgame+0x35a9bc
0012e4a4  0012e4c8
0012e4a8  7c8092ac kernel32!GetTickCount
0012e4ac  00000490
0012e4b0  00000001
0012e4b4  0de11e60
0012e4b8  00001000
0012e4bc  00001000
0012e4c0  ff494e49
0012e4c4  69737200
0012e4c8  736c6166
0012e4cc  0d8f0065
0012e4d0  00001000
0012e4d4  00001000
0012e4d8  ff911dac
0012e4dc  00000600
0012e4e0  736c6166
0012e4e4  61650065
0012e4e8  76696474
0012e4ec  5f656469
0012e4f0  69766e45
0012e4f4  6d6e6f72
0012e4f8  45746e65
0012e4fc  7474696d MSCTF!CACPWrap::_FindInnerLoop+0x43
0012e500  0ad0e917
0012e504  0ad0c510
0012e508  0dc57c61
0012e50c  049cbf48
0012e510  00000077
0012e514  0ad0c5cb
0012e518  007691a0 eqgame+0x3691a0
0012e51c  049cbf48
0012e520  00000073
0012e524  0012e54c
0012e528  00720066 eqgame+0x320066
0012e52c  049cbf48
0012e530  00000000
0012e534  049cbf48
0012e538  00af6dac
0012e53c  0074fb61 eqgame+0x34fb61
0012e540  049cbf48
0012e544  00000073
0012e548  00af6759
0012e54c  00777456 eqgame+0x377456
0012e550  049cbf48
0012e554  00000077
0012e558  0012e580

Thanks again, this one has me stumped on all fronts.

dont_know_at_all · Post by **dont_know_at_all** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:09 am

You crashed drawing a button. Are you using the default UI?

This is not an MQ crash as far as I can tell...

Wolve · Post by **Wolve** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:57 pm

Yes, I am using the default UI.
Would this same crash occur before character select?

Thank you

dont_know_at_all · Post by **dont_know_at_all** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:23 pm

It's doubtful. The UI before char select is different and does not use the routine you crashed in.

Wolve · Post by **Wolve** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:06 pm

Hmm, i'll delete all my UI stuff and see if I can't reproduce the crash.

Thank you DKAA

Wolve · Post by **Wolve** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:11 pm

Hmm, is this all graphics related? DirectX perhaps?
WinDbg

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(6c8.cc): Access violation - code c0000005 (first chance)
First chance exceptions are reported before any exception handling.
This exception may be expected and handled.
eax=2d6256b0 ebx=00000000 ecx=003d56d0 edx=00c80000 esi=2d6256b0 edi=2d5830a0
eip=018d20ef esp=0012dde4 ebp=003d51b0 iopl=0         nv up ei pl nz na pe nc
cs=001b  ss=0023  ds=0023  es=0023  fs=003b  gs=0000             efl=00210206
*** WARNING: Unable to verify checksum for G:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\dpvs.dll
*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found.  Defaulted to export symbols for G:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\dpvs.dll - 
dpvs+0x20ef:
018d20ef 897a3c          mov     dword ptr [edx+3Ch],edi ds:0023:00c8003c=8b570000
0:000> .sympath SRV*c:\winnt\symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols 
Symbol search path is: SRV*c:\winnt\symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols 
WARNING: Whitespace at end of path element
0:000> .sympath SRV*c:\winnt\symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols
Symbol search path is: SRV*c:\winnt\symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols
0:000> r
eax=2d6256b0 ebx=00000000 ecx=003d56d0 edx=00c80000 esi=2d6256b0 edi=2d5830a0
eip=018d20ef esp=0012dde4 ebp=003d51b0 iopl=0         nv up ei pl nz na pe nc
cs=001b  ss=0023  ds=0023  es=0023  fs=003b  gs=0000             efl=00210206
dpvs+0x20ef:
018d20ef 897a3c          mov     dword ptr [edx+3Ch],edi ds:0023:00c8003c=8b570000
0:000> kv
ChildEBP RetAddr  Args to Child              
WARNING: Stack unwind information not available. Following frames may be wrong.
0012dde4 018d35e1 2d6256b0 00000017 003d56d0 dpvs+0x20ef
0012de1c 018d21cd c5529c00 003d56d0 2d5dab00 dpvs+0x35e1
0012de38 018d5895 80000000 40e99999 003d9720 dpvs+0x21cd
0012de6c 018f9f0e 018f9f19 003d53b0 003d51b0 dpvs+0x5895
0012de70 018f9f19 003d53b0 003d51b0 003d51b0 dpvs!DPVS::ObjectSplitter::split+0x3e2e
0012de94 4fe7b703 0000001d 00000008 00047467 dpvs!DPVS::ObjectSplitter::split+0x3e39
0012def0 018d6aab 0000001c 00000000 00000028 d3d9!CD3DDDIDX6::UpdateWInfo+0x13 (FPO: [Non-Fpo])
0012df04 018e8e7e 00000000 00000000 00000050 dpvs+0x6aab
0012df30 018e5e89 00000000 01c90b80 003d53b0 dpvs!DPVS::LibraryDefs::Services::leaveMutex+0xaf4e
0012df60 018e5182 0012df88 0012df88 0012df88 dpvs!DPVS::LibraryDefs::Services::leaveMutex+0x7f59
0012df80 018e5108 43efffff 018fe845 00000000 dpvs!DPVS::LibraryDefs::Services::leaveMutex+0x7252
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 dpvs!DPVS::LibraryDefs::Services::leaveMutex+0x71d8
0:000> dds esp L 100
0012dde4  003d56d0
0012dde8  018d35e1 dpvs+0x35e1
0012ddec  2d6256b0
0012ddf0  00000017
0012ddf4  003d56d0
0012ddf8  003d51b0
0012ddfc  00000000
0012de00  003d56d0
0012de04  c56a9900
0012de08  c4e90500
0012de0c  c5456d80
0012de10  43d20fd0
0012de14  00000000
0012de18  c5111354
0012de1c  413df958
0012de20  018d21cd dpvs+0x21cd
0012de24  c5529c00
0012de28  003d56d0
0012de2c  2d5dab00
0012de30  0000007d
0012de34  80000000
0012de38  429f9009
0012de3c  018d5895 dpvs+0x5895
0012de40  80000000
0012de44  40e99999
0012de48  003d9720
0012de4c  0191d560 dpvs!DPVS::VirtualPortal::create+0x1f220
0012de50  003d53b0
0012de54  80000000
0012de58  40e99999
0012de5c  0191d560 dpvs!DPVS::VirtualPortal::create+0x1f220
0012de60  003d53b0
0012de64  00000002
0012de68  003d9720
0012de6c  0191d560 dpvs!DPVS::VirtualPortal::create+0x1f220
0012de70  018f9f0e dpvs!DPVS::ObjectSplitter::split+0x3e2e
0012de74  018f9f19 dpvs!DPVS::ObjectSplitter::split+0x3e39
0012de78  003d53b0
0012de7c  003d51b0
0012de80  003d51b0
0012de84  00000000
0012de88  010003e7
0012de8c  00000000
0012de90  003d53b0
0012de94  00000000
0012de98  4fe7b703 d3d9!CD3DDDIDX6::UpdateWInfo+0x13
0012de9c  0000001d
0012dea0  00000008
0012dea4  00047467
0012dea8  0012dfe0
0012deac  3fcfbb1b
0012deb0  3f800000
0012deb4  00000000
0012deb8  0191d560 dpvs!DPVS::VirtualPortal::create+0x1f220
0012debc  00000000
0012dec0  c029e027
0012dec4  00000000
0012dec8  00047469
0012decc  0012dfa0
0012ded0  0012dee8
0012ded4  c50b47b8
0012ded8  0012df30
0012dedc  00000000
0012dee0  0191b180 dpvs!DPVS::VirtualPortal::create+0x1ce40
0012dee4  00000000
0012dee8  0191d560 dpvs!DPVS::VirtualPortal::create+0x1f220
0012deec  01c88960
0012def0  01c94700
0012def4  018d6aab dpvs+0x6aab
0012def8  0000001c
0012defc  00000000
0012df00  00000028
0012df04  0000001e
0012df08  018e8e7e dpvs!DPVS::LibraryDefs::Services::leaveMutex+0xaf4e
0012df0c  00000000
0012df10  00000000
0012df14  00000050
0012df18  0000003c
0012df1c  0191b180 dpvs!DPVS::VirtualPortal::create+0x1ce40
0012df20  00000000
0012df24  00001e00
0012df28  01cacae0
0012df2c  00000000
0012df30  01c88a80
0012df34  018e5e89 dpvs!DPVS::LibraryDefs::Services::leaveMutex+0x7f59
0012df38  00000000
0012df3c  01c90b80
0012df40  003d53b0
0012df44  00000000
0012df48  003d5404
0012df4c  003d53d0
0012df50  003d53b0
0012df54  01c88f9c
0012df58  01c88a80
0012df5c  003d53b0
0012df60  003d5404
0012df64  018e5182 dpvs!DPVS::LibraryDefs::Services::leaveMutex+0x7252
0012df68  0012df88
0012df6c  0012df88
0012df70  0012df88
0012df74  0012df88
0012df78  00000000
0012df7c  01c90b80
0012df80  00000000
0012df84  018e5108 dpvs!DPVS::LibraryDefs::Services::leaveMutex+0x71d8
0012df88  43efffff
0012df8c  018fe845 dpvs!DPVS::VirtualPortal::create+0x505
0012df90  00000000
0012df94  003d53b0
0012df98  003d51b0
0012df9c  003d51b0
0012dfa0  00000000
0012dfa4  00000011
0012dfa8  018f8db2 dpvs!DPVS::ObjectSplitter::split+0x2cd2
0012dfac  3f000000
0012dfb0  018f8ba0 dpvs!DPVS::ObjectSplitter::split+0x2ac0
0012dfb4  00000000
0012dfb8  019ef9e8
0012dfbc  018f8afb dpvs!DPVS::ObjectSplitter::split+0x2a1b
0012dfc0  019ef9e8
0012dfc4  003d53b0
0012dfc8  00000001
0012dfcc  00000000
0012dfd0  019ef9e8
0012dfd4  01c50170
0012dfd8  0012e1a8
0012dfdc  00000001
0012dfe0  018fb144 dpvs!DPVS::Camera::resolveVisibility+0x84
0012dfe4  019ef9e8
0012dfe8  003d53b0
0012dfec  00000001
0012dff0  00000000
0012dff4  000a031f
0012dff8  019a1240
0012dffc  00000000
0012e000  0173ce8e*** WARNING: Unable to verify checksum for G:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\EQGraphicsDX9.DLL
*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found.  Defaulted to export symbols for G:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\EQGraphicsDX9.DLL - 
 EQGraphicsDX9+0xce8e
0012e004  019ef9e8
0012e008  00000001
0012e00c  00000000
0012e010  1247e270
0012e014  019ffa90
0012e018  00000000
0012e01c  00000000
0012e020  bfc7de05
0012e024  bd9a4208
0012e028  000a031f
0012e02c  000b031f
0012e030  3ee27520
0012e034  be88252e
0012e038  bf7529a2
0012e03c  bf74f86a
0012e040  00000000
0012e044  4028f3c6
0012e048  bdd5688e
0012e04c  bdd53db6
0012e050  c50b44a8
0012e054  c2e122da
0012e058  c3a98e39
0012e05c  c3a8ec30
0012e060  3f800000
0012e064  00000000
0012e068  00000000
0012e06c  00000000
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dont_know_at_all · Post by **dont_know_at_all** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:48 pm

Yes, to being graphics related. Do you have any plugins not from this site? All these crashes are unrelated....

Wolve · Post by **Wolve** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:16 pm

No sir, all the plugins I am using are from these boards.

brainiac · Post by **brainiac** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:28 pm

not sure if it was obvious or not, but do any of these crashes occur when mq isn't loaded? also, make sure you have latest graphics drivers.

I had a problem a while back with my graphics drivers (vista x64) where if I had a 1080p video running on one of my monitors, eq would crash on startup.

Wolve · Post by **Wolve** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:28 pm

Well, I did some testing and it seems to still crash even without MQ2 loaded. It's also started to bsod. All kinds of fun stuff.

cjd1 · Post by **cjd1** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:41 pm

Find a copy of a bootable cd image of memtest86 and check your RAM.